As you know I own and operate GetInstantPayments.com, an Instant Commission affiliate Program. We offer our affiliates 100% on the front end and WE keep any sales made on the One Time Offer. It is quite clearly stated in the Reseller Center what the commissions are and who get’s what. It’s quite standard for this type of program.
Today, I received a support desk ticket from Rodger Hyatt who basically stated that he wanted me to submit a payment to him for all “backend” (one time offer sales) that were purchased from his referrals as I stated it was 100% Commission, though it clearly shows that the 100% commission refers to the front end product.
As Mr. Rodger Hyatt continued to make threats and issue ulimatums, I decided to remove him from my affiliate program. I also emailed my other affiliates with a copy of the exchange from the help desk ticket as I felt they should be aware of anything that may shed a poor light on our program so that they had the “facts” to respond.
Here is an EXACT copy of the exchange so you can see for yourself (I have only edited out email addresses):
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Waiting reply from staff |
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2011-02-02 06:53:46 |
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2011-02-02 10:01:29 |
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Rodger Hyatt |
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| Date: |
2011-02-02 06:53:46 |
| Name: |
Rodger Hyatt |
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206.63.87.48 |
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Message:
Please submit payment for my unpaid backend commissions to sales@rodgerhyatt.com
You said 100% commissions, I know better definition of the term than “all” or “complete”…
-Rodger |
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2011-02-02 08:33:16 |
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John Farrar |
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Rodger,
The only place where the percentage is mentioned is in the notification emails and this percentage is based on the frontend product only.
The backend product is where we make OUR money which not only allows US to make a profit, but allows US to provide YOU with the sales pages, the products, the customer service for your buyers etc.
In the Reseller Center it is CLEARLY STATED what YOUR percentage is and that the Upsell (backend) is 0%.
This is how virtually ALL instant commission program work and you know it.
If you prefer, I can ban you from the site for making such an idiotic demand and then you can have 0%.
So if this is going to be an ongoing problem for you, let me know and I will be happy to ban your IP Address and paypal email now.
Best regards,
John Farrar
GetInstantPayments.com
http://www.getinstantpayments.com/members |
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2011-02-02 08:37:41 |
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John Farrar |
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Also, it should be note that in the email it SPECIFICALLY states the name of the product which is 100% commissioned. The upsell or backend is a DIFFERENT product and is shown in the reseller center with 0% commission stated.
Be careful how you answer as it is MY right as the sight owner to allow you to be a member or NOT a member.
I have PLENTY of affiliates that are more than happy to promote my products without coming up with some BS scheme to try and extort money from me.
Best regards,
John Farrar
GetInstantPayments.com
http://www.getinstantpayments.com/members |
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2011-02-02 09:39:53 |
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Rodger Hyatt |
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Extort? Idiotic?
I’ll give ya 24 hours to come to your senses before i let 60k people know how bad you are at prejudging people and stepping on the wrong toes.
by the way, all 3 of my affiliate systems give a true 100%.
perhaps my band of affiliates should know not to deal with a smart ass like you?
You decide – 24hrs
Rodger Hyatt |
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2011-02-02 09:56:16 |
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John Farrar |
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Rodger,
How you run your affiliate program has no bearing on how I run mine.
As I said, if you don’t like the terms here, then you can go somewhere else.
I am removing you from my system and you will not be allowed to use any longer.
You can say anything you like but should I find anything online that is slanderous or with liable, I assure you I will contact my attorney and act accordingly.
Best regards,
John Farrar
GetInstantPayments.com
http://www.getinstantpayments.com/members |
| Date: |
2011-02-02 10:01:29 |
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Rodger Hyatt |
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OMG, what a whiney ass… IM gonna tell my mommy…
dork… |
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He then sent out this email to his list:
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From: “Rodger Hyatt” <admin@rodgerhyatt.com>
Sender: 100p_mem@automateyourlist.com
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 13:07:00 -0500
To:
Subject: Stay away from this person, he will rip you off…
Had a discussion earlier with a guy that boasts about giving away
one hundred percent commissions on all his products set up
When you send customers to his site, they buy something and you get
one hundred percent of the commissions.
But when the customer returns from paypal to download his product,
he or she is offered another tempting offer and most customers purchase it.
Guess how much you get for that sale?
. .. … …NOTHING!
Last I checked, 100% meant “ALL”… but I could be wrong.
So I contacted this person regarding this, and got slapped in the face
and called names.
So if you ever sell anything as an
affiliate for GetInstantPayments dot com or from
a guy named John Farrar, perhaps you should know about where a lot of your
hard earned money has gone.
His next step was to mail all of his
affiliates an exaggerated version of our
conversation. You may consider this return fire… But I am simply looking
out for your pocket book… I know you do not like being deceived.
To your growing success,
Rodger Hyatt
212 Boise St., Kootenai, ID 83840, USA
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My email to my affiliates contained EXACTLY what you see above from our support desk system No exaggeration, simply an exact copy of the ticket as it still reads now.
When we refused to “pay him off” to avoid his threat of slander, he did just that.
So you can make your own judgement of “who” is the real person of “integrity” here……..
I can’t tell you how many of MY affiliates have sent emails expressing how in fact it IS clearly understood how our affiliate Program works.
It should also be noted that “members of his list” were kind enought to send me copies of his “slanderous” email………hardly something you would do if I was indeed the type of person Mr. Hyatt would claim….
Then he proceeded to make false accusation about me in Skype Groups such as this one:
[15:17:44] *** keith hyatt added — Rodger ***
[15:18:30] keith hyatt: Mornin Rodger
[15:19:03] — Rodger: morning bro
[15:19:18] keith hyatt: so how’s the puppy?
[15:19:26] — Rodger: checking…
[15:19:42] — Rodger: gotta love it when people attempt to hack my gmail accounts
LOL
[15:20:25] keith hyatt: someone screwing with you?
[15:21:49] — Rodger: yeah, that john farar guy… how green can ya get
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